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Watched it last night, and...

A decent movie, but disappointing in comparison to Casino Royale. There's a fucking brilliant pair of scenes in a hotel where Bond takes out 4 guys in an elevator while handcuffed, makes some small talk with M, and then makes a really smooth spy-escape from the hotel. Overall, though, it lacks in the "James Bond is a spy" department, he's more of an action hero in this movie and less of a smooth operator, which I feel is an unfortunate direction.

Top 4 complaints :
1) Way way WAY over-edited - editors/directors need to figure out that cutting every 3 seconds doesn't really add urgency to a scene, it either makes it confusing (not in a good way) or more likely, distracting.
2) They made this huge fucking deal over not using the line "shaken, not stirred", then replaced it with a shitty, awkward product placement. "Shaken, not... BUY GORDON'S GIN IT IS AWESOME GUYS."
3) The finale of the second chase scene is kind of fucking ridiculous. Once again, a situation where tacking on more "dramatic devices" made it just silly. "It's not enough to have them fighting on a precarious rope bridge over an active volcano! There must be lava monkeys! And the lava monkeys should have pistols! And the pistols should have bayonets! And the bayonets should be poisoned!"
4) It felt like literally every single person in the movie was a spy. The dude renting airplanes in the middle of nowhere has a direct line to the Bolivian Air Force, who knows to go after Bond? Honestly? I can appreciate that spies tend to run into other spies a lot, but it felt like a bit much to me. "Yo, Bolivian Air Force? Some guy just rented an airplane from me." "Um, thanks for the hot tip, old dude who rents airplanes in the middle of nowhere. We'll just be sending some jackbooted thugs out there to beat the shit out of you for wasting our time."

I saw it last night too...

Date: 2008-11-19 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z-athena.livejournal.com
I totally agree the first movie was better and this is over edited, still on it's own I'd recommend it.

1) yes there's room to linger and sit there another 15 minutes to watch the lingering. They did it a couple times, like at the Italian Villia, and the scene with the long walk over the dessert was good.

2) I think they're developing that over many movies... I really wanted to know why Bond couldn't sleep. Give me a flashback or something.

3) No comment

4) That transition was sketchy, there could have been a group of rebels there and then a little macheesmo showdown. Or he could have pretended to trade the woman then change his mind.

My own points...

a) Tell the fricken village people where their water is for god's sake. why leave them high and dry?

b) I loved the opera scene, it was sweet, give me more of that

c) Give me more hand to hand combat, the building leaping stuff was great, just got overdone

d)A little more sex/steamy/passionate buildup... the kissing/sex seemed random and without emotions.

Re: I saw it last night too...

Date: 2008-11-19 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tranceboy.livejournal.com
I just assumed that Bond not sleeping has to do with the trauma of seeing his One True Love (TM) drown in front of him in Casino Royale.

I'd like to see a little bit less action in the next Bond movie, personally. A little more actual spycraft, balanced with some badass fight scenes that they take the time to do right rather than just relying on shakycam and quick cuts. One of my favorite fight scenes in any movie is the fight scene between Zhang Ziyi and Michelle Yeoh in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon - there's a cut in that fight scene that's like 10 or 15 seconds long of pretty intense fighting, and it's an awesome scene. Admittedly, both of them are full-on martial arts badasses, and I don't expect quite that level from Daniel Craig, but it'd be nice to see a fight scene with more than 3 consecutive seconds of film in it.

With regards to the sex, yeah, it felt kind of sudden and throwaway, but it's not that unusual for Bond movies. The relationship with Vesper in Casino Royale was way more unusual than the Mrs. Fields thing in this movie, as Bond movies go. I did kind of like that the Bolivian spy totally shot him down at the end of this movie. :)

Re: I saw it last night too...

Date: 2008-11-23 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t-rabbit.livejournal.com
Yeah, but Miss Strawberry Fields was cute.

And the Cloverfield shaky-cam thing was highly, highly annoying. The rest, I enjoyed.


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